![]() ![]() What I put this down to is the combination of a relatively low compression ratio and a very poor choice of cam profiles.įor those that do not know, these engines have a single cam with a single set of lobes for the exhaust side. I was hoping to improve the economy on mine along with the power but the economy stubbornly remains poor. Hi Brettus, the Outy is certainly a bit heavy on fuel but they are heavy and the permanent AWD and slushbox (auto) have extra parasitic losses. If you own one of these and want to tune it, make yourself known here. ![]() So if you have the tiny front rotors, find a pair of calipers at the wreckers off the mentioned model cars (mine cost only $33 each) and get a pair of new 294mm*28mm rotors to suit ZG~ZJ Outlander (around $150 pair) and never wonder if you are going to stop in time again Do not use the thinner 26mm rotors found on overseas Outlanders, use the 28mm rotors - these do not suffer the same warping problems (which is why Mitsi changed to them). Brake pads are the same! This is a simple bolt in on replacement and adds more braking power than the 20mm extra diameter would suggest. Then the larger 294mm front rotors can be used to replace the puny 274mm stock ones. ![]() I bought this vehicle as a tow car for my boat and the first thing I noticed (apart from the lack of power) was the lack of braking power!!! This turned out to be an easy fix - the front calipers can be replaced with calipers off the later Outlander models (ZG toZJ) and most ASX of the same vintage or CJ Lancers with the bigger brakes (2.4l models). Economy is not great on these either, being a permanent 50/50 torque split AWD with a relatively low compression engine but again, the cost difference between one of these and a later Outlander AWD is huge so that's a lot of $$$ to go into filling the tank more often. These cars will never be rockets - they are heavy compared to the later models and the old-school 4AT tranny saps a lot more power than the later CVTs (but they can handle towing much better than the CVT). So far I have reconditioned the head and taken the opportunity to shave 23 thou off (the maximum before starting to gnaw away at the valve seats) to raise the compression ratio to around 9.9:1 instead of the stock 9.5:1.Īpart from that, I have flash tuned it to improve overall performance. Just people who want to get the best they can out of their relatively stock 4G69 or 4G64 engines please. I am happy to help providing you don't dribble on about turbo conversions or transplanting a 4G63T etc. If interested in such things, talk about it here. Tuning results are a useful improvement over stock. The "mivec" is a simple cam lobe switching arrangement much like Honda's VTec but it just switches the intake cam lobes to a lumpier set at 3500rpm. The engines are relatively simple to tune since there is no VVT to mess with. The Australian models have only 1 cat and no rear o2 sensor unlike most overseas models with 3 cats and loads of O2 sensors If money wasn't a problem then they wouldn't be driving an Accord in the first place except as a commuter car.I have figured out how to tune the 4G69 Mivec Australian delivered Outlanders using just a Tactrix OP2.0 and Ecuflash. Yeah yeah, people have come on here in the past and talked big saying "money's not a problem", but let's face it, that's a bullshit line. Our cars simply are not designed for that, nor is it financially feasible. If you really want a car putting down 350+WHP do yourself a favor and sell the Honda, go get something else. Not to mention you would have to upgrade nearly all of your drivetrain components and install an LSD up front. ![]() You wouldn't be able to "get on it" until at least 3rd gear without losing control of the car. The V6 Accords can barely handle the WHP and TQ they currently have, adding 75-200WHP more (depending on how aggressive you are with PSI and tuning) would be absurd. On another note, installing a twin turbo kit would be absolutely pointless, even if it did fit (which is unlikely) and the ECU could be tuned to it. Some people have utilized piggy back tuning solutions but their effectiveness and reliability are sketchy at best. Hondata is working on a solution for tuning 8th Gens, but as of this moment there is nothing on the market to flash our stock ECU. ![]()
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